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NickB20/05/2012 19:57:02
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The Cocteau Marianne design has caught my eye and so I'm about to start collecting all the Marianne definitives.

Has there been a Stamp Mag article on these I can get in a back number?

Cheers, Nick

Adrian21/05/2012 08:50:20
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Hi Nick,

You've picked a good subject! I think the Marianne stamps are absolutely wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't think (or at least don't recall) there's any recent-ish Stamp Magazine features on them. They will, however, all be dealt with in the monthly Champions of Europe column, but that might take a good few years, because there are so many sets. Off the top of my hat we have:

1944 Marianne d'Alger

1944 Marianne de Dulac

1945 Marianne de Gandon

1955 Marianne de Muller

1959 Marianne à la Nef

1960 Marianne de Decaris

1961 Mariannde de Decaris

1967 Marianne de Cheffer

1971 Mariannde Béquet

1982 Liberté

1989 Marianne de Briat

1997 Marianne de luquet

2005 Mariannde Lamouche

???? Marianne de Beaujard

It really depends on how deep you want to go of course. Basic stuff can easily be collected with the SG catalogues (remember some of them were used in French territories as well). For a bit more you should try and get a French catalogue, and if you really want to specialise or go down the postal history route, you might consider joining a specialised society.

Meanwhile, there is a wonderful blog (in French) from the French Marianne Study Circle which you'll find here.

And of course you can always come here and start threads with any questions you may have, as we might just be able to answer them. Or just start threads on what you have, show off your collection a bit!


NickB21/05/2012 23:26:50
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Many thanks for your prompt help, Adrian.

I'll log progress here - not much done yet, but I'm only a day into this new interest.

Cheers, Nick

Adrian23/05/2012 10:13:40
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Nice blog! Will keep an eye on it. By the way, talking about the Cocteau Marianne: did you know there are two types?

Type I has the numeral 2 completely free of the top design, but a later reprint made use of a new die and in this type II the bottom tips of the background bit touch the 2. Easy to miss yet an important variety!

Type I:

Type I

Type II:

NickB24/05/2012 23:35:39
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Hi Adrian

A detail that small is on the border of those I ignore, but as it is the stamp that got me started I'll make an exception and buy two. Do you have any idea when the second print was made? Abelard mentions "1961... and 1966-67 with increased prices", but I haven't found it in the catalogue.

Thanks again for your help.


Adrian26/05/2012 08:42:27
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None of my catalogues mention a date, but I found 1965 here, which is the year I had in my mind as well. The French catalogues I have (Ceres and Y&T) state the price of the Type II stamp to be ten to fifteen times higher than the more common Type I stamp.

NickB12/06/2012 14:40:19
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Thanks again, Adrian.

I have made a start on the web page after a successful visit to Orpington stamp fair.

Cheers, Nick.

Adrian14/06/2012 10:26:01
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That'll look great when it starts filling up!

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