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Fred Sellars28/03/2020 09:34:11
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Further investigation of the 10d phosphors indicates that 3 types of paper was used to print this particular value when comparing other values with similar variations, which also includes the regional issues, as per previous scans.

img_20200327_134906.jpgIf a specialised catalogue cannot differentiate between these identifiable variations of paper such as :- Cream, Whiter, Contaminated and Fluorescent type papers (irrespective of issue date), then it should no longer specify itself as being " SPECIALISED ".

What are your thoughts on the matter ?

Fred Sellars06/04/2020 18:31:41
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Furtherer reasons as to the variations in paper can be attributed to the contaminated papers discovered with fluorescent flecks/fibres in some of these issued stamps paper, the like of which can be found on a recent thread made by me with the name of " The contaminated papers of the multiple crown Wilding stamps "and should be read in liaison to this thread.

Any comments would be welcome on the subject, thank you, Fred.

Edited By Fred Sellars on 06/04/2020 18:34:16

Fred Sellars21/04/2020 12:34:39
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It would seem that the debacle seems to have persisted for around 3 years in the production of these papers used and was basically due to the contamination that occurred during the period 1965/8, mainly on the lower value phosphor definitives, with the odd exception of some commemoratives as can be seen under longwave ultraviolet light " The devil's in the detail ! " .

Fred Sellars30/04/2020 08:47:16
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When it comes to stamp catalogues, I have always held the name of Stanley Gibbons in high esteem, whenever I have needed information this has been the place to look, in fact, you could say that it represented the "Philatelic Bible" as I am sure many will agree, but after doing some research on Wilding stamps, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of information is unavailable in the specialised catalogue relating to these issues, and over the years it seems to have fallen by the wayside in some respects.

When it comes to modern British stamps (Machins) the Deegam catalogue first published in 1993 wins by a country mile with around 2000 pages to it's credit and is full of relevant information for reference by collectors of these stamps. The late Douglas Myall for his ingenuity in its perception deserves high recognition on par with such people as Rowland Hill (the postal reformer) in respect of his accomplishments.

This thread has been created in order to point out some of the variations found with British Wilding stamps with the multiple crown watermark that appear to have been omitted in the Stanley Gibbons specialised catalogue of which have been in the public domain now for over 50 years in order for collectors to be aware of their existence.

Let's hope that Gibbons takes a leaf out of Deegam's way of doing things in the not too distant future.

Thank you, Fred Sellars.

Edited By Fred Sellars on 30/04/2020 08:48:49

Fred Sellars05/05/2020 10:54:02
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In CONTAMINATION LAND back in 1967 the blossoms were in full bloom !img_20200404_133649.jpg

Fred Sellars08/05/2020 13:13:30
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As an addition to my postings on this forum, you can now view my latest posting by the name of "the multiple crown Wilding stamp papers 2" as a guest of the Great Britain Philatelic Society to be found on the discussion board section, the site can be found on the following :-

http://www.gbps.org.uk/boards

Plus many other aspects to the hobby of stamp collecting. Enjoy !

Fred Sellars22/05/2020 17:08:01
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Several theories have been made as to the 3 unlisted type of papers that was manufactured from around 1964.

Starting with the comment made by Aubrey Walker( chief chemist for the GPO ) whilst at the Dollis Hill establishment North West London in 1969 that related to the contaminating particles found in some of the paper used to print the lower value multiple crown wildings, and how it could have occurred.

Secondly, the masking technique used to disguise them that created a higher fluorescent paper, and thirdly removal of the fluorescence by oxidation, giving a cream type translucent paper similar to the ones produced prior to 1962.

All of which are quite feasible due to the fact it's all been previously kept under wraps, as back in 1968 Dr John Sugden of Woodstock fame commented during his hunt for information on various papers " as official silence is absolute " .

Need I say more ! Fred.

 

 

Edited By Fred Sellars on 22/05/2020 17:09:56

Fred Sellars29/05/2020 08:39:58
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It would appear that Mr Frank Leslie Walton (former president of the the Royal philatelic Society London and previous editor of The London philatelist) plus some of the expert committee of the RPSL were invited by Stanley Gibbons to re-write the introductory notes for the last issue of the the GB specialised catalogue vol 3, but unfortunately this was never accomplished, due to the fact that Stanley Gibbons were only prepared to accept discrimination between cream papers prior to the change over in 1962 and whiter papers thereafter, irrespective of any new discoveries that had been made since then including the translucent creams and contaminated ones as well as the fluorescent variety.

Therefore the veil of secrecy still persists to this day !

Edited By Fred Sellars on 29/05/2020 08:43:39

Fred Sellars02/06/2020 08:56:45
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Was it trials or tribulations one must ask with regards to the debacle that happened all those years ago, which apparently has never been disclosed by any of the authorities involved over the variations discovered ?

Continuity of quality along with reputation are of the utmost importance to any producer of goods or services provided, and maybe this is the reason as to why nothing has ever been mentioned before by any of the companies involved in the past with the production of these stamp papers over the last 60 years or so, after all, these papers were produced under supervision of the GPO !

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