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Could there be a reversed multiple crown watermark ???

Discovery of reversed ribbing

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Ian Gibbons 108/07/2019 19:00:43
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Its not 'watermark laid paper' though is it, its laid paper that was then watermarked, different processes.

I don't represent anyone, don't know why you think I would??

So its ok for you to badger and berate others for not giving answers to posts, but when you start getting answers (albeit, you do not like them) that's not ok?

Strange, I was only giving answers, cordially.


Fred Sellars08/07/2019 19:13:38
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Ah, now I see where you are coming from, you're just being vindictive.

Good evening.

Fred Sellars09/07/2019 21:05:02
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What good is a forum when only one person replies out of over 1500 views of the thread ?

Your logic is irrational with regards to badgering and berating others for not responding.

That's not cordial.

Over and OUT.

Fred Sellars11/07/2019 04:44:34
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By the way, thank you for the diagram, as it has helped to resolve my theory.

By reversing the roll you have reversed the laid paper as far as the delivery aspect is concerned, therefore by passing the reversed paper through the dandy roll you have inadvertently created a reversed watermark, as in order to have compensated for the reversed paper,you would have also had to reverse the dandy roll accordingly, but that is never done (as you so eloquently put).

So therefore what you have stated strengthens my theory rather than weaken it.. try it with an Edward crown design !!!!

I have put my theory to you as simple as possible so that you can understand.


As to which is the reversed one is anybody's guess,as I have my own theory on that also.

Food for thought.

Edited By Fred Sellars on 11/07/2019 05:04:28

Fred Sellars11/07/2019 05:30:11
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How strange with the Edward crown design the result is still the same, but you still have the reversed ribbing to contend with as it was the mould cover that had the 45° wires as I have previously stated it's only a theory and not written in stone as they are certainly different, you could say that the stamps were printed on a reversed paper rather than a reversed watermark which seems to be more logical.

After all that is what a forum is all about, discussion, Fred.



Edited By Fred Sellars on 11/07/2019 05:35:13

Edited By Fred Sellars on 11/07/2019 05:47:51

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