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Thread: Ultra violet radiation of multiple crown Wilding definitives.
02/05/2020 11:01:02

Still on the theme of stamp collectors and their contributions towards the hobby in the past, I have this to say.

In all my years of stamp collecting (60+) I have never known British stamp papers to have been so contaminated before (or since), normally unseen by the naked eye but very prominent under the relevant ultraviolet light, similar to phosphor band tagging and their variations.

The fact that the FIB's discovered are so different beggars belief as to why there has never been any previous write-ups in any magazines or other philatelic publications in the past, does nobody do any research or study on Wilding stamps anymore ? Or do they just follow the herd ! Added to the fact that these stamps have been in the hands of collectors now for over 50 years.

Much has been written on the subject of Machins to the point of exhaustion (which is commendable), but their predecessors have been treated as a Cinderella.

How can stamps with such an identifiable difference be ignored !img_20200404_133649.jpg

Thread: The contaminated papers of the multiple crown Wilding stamps
01/05/2020 16:32:30

CONTINUATION of contaminated papers ........

Here is one of several photographs that is depicted on the Wiggins Teape and Co: 1934 review site in Grace's Guide.

It may not be to everyone's taste, but was essential in the mechanised production of paper at that time.

No doubt, the same principle applies today !



30/04/2020 08:47:16

When it comes to stamp catalogues, I have always held the name of Stanley Gibbons in high esteem, whenever I have needed information this has been the place to look, in fact, you could say that it represented the "Philatelic Bible" as I am sure many will agree, but after doing some research on Wilding stamps, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of information is unavailable in the specialised catalogue relating to these issues, and over the years it seems to have fallen by the wayside in some respects.

When it comes to modern British stamps (Machins) the Deegam catalogue first published in 1993 wins by a country mile with around 2000 pages to it's credit and is full of relevant information for reference by collectors of these stamps. The late Douglas Myall for his ingenuity in its perception deserves high recognition on par with such people as Rowland Hill (the postal reformer) in respect of his accomplishments.

This thread has been created in order to point out some of the variations found with British Wilding stamps with the multiple crown watermark that appear to have been omitted in the Stanley Gibbons specialised catalogue of which have been in the public domain now for over 50 years in order for collectors to be aware of their existence.

Let's hope that Gibbons takes a leaf out of Deegam's way of doing things in the not too distant future.

Thank you, Fred Sellars.

Edited By Fred Sellars on 30/04/2020 08:48:49

Thread: GB stamp collection
29/04/2020 16:48:48

On second thoughts Kirk, it may be that there is very little in the collection of any value and you should check as that could be the case.

It worth spending a couple of hours going through the collection by using the free catalogue located at , it costs nothing to register and may be beneficial as the valuation you intend could cost more than what the collections worth !

But don't be fooled by some of the prices quoted as they are what the catalogue sells them for and not what you could get for them, a basic rule of thumb would be 1/10th cat price.

It's worth a try first !

At least you would have a better idea of the overall collections value before going to get a valuation.


28/04/2020 19:45:38

Evening Kirk, I feel at times like an agony aunt with all these questions, but will try and oblige you.

Initially I'd keep it local to get an overall picture by trying at least two dealers in your area as it's always best to shop around, but don't expect Great Expectations, remember the old adage " They that expect nothing are never disappointed ".

Just use your common sense 🙇 ! Fred.

28/04/2020 07:20:28

Good morning Kirk,

I notice that you have taken the trouble to make 3 scans in "albums" based on your query but do not appear to have included any with the text !

Nevertheless, from what I can see of the 1d red in question (without going into detail) it appears to be torn on the right side and missing perfs bottom left making the stamp only a "space filler" and practically worthless, condition counts for everything in this case.

Sorry about that Kirk, Fred.

Thread: Phosphor bands
27/04/2020 14:50:54

Dear Pablo,

You state that you have a ' phosphor ' money detector. Normally a bank note checker detects fluorescence in the ink or the paper or both.

It's quite possible that your lamp is not capable of detecting such differences of phosphor, due to its wavelength regarding afterglow.

I know that with the watermarked Wilding stamps that this applies to be the case.

Perhaps someone with a greater knowledge on the subject of Machins could be more explicit, in the meantime an overall guide to these stamps (Machins) including bands and the many variables that can be found is given on the following site :-

Hope this is of some use to you ! Fred.

Thread: French perforation shift of the 50 centime "sower" .
27/04/2020 12:35:57

Further examples relating to oddities/oddballs are no longer being added to this thread, as it was originally only intended for the "Sower", but one thing lead to another, you can find additional items of this nature on a more recent thread by the name of " The philatelic world of oddballs ". Thank you Fred .

Thread: The contaminated papers of the multiple crown Wilding stamps
25/04/2020 09:02:20

CONTINUATION of contaminated papers .......

The WWW is an amazing place to gain information that otherwise would have been hard to find elsewhere, and is now my first port of call (if you know where to look) when searching for details on any given subject.

The firm of Wiggins Teape has had quite a varied history since being founded in 1761 along with many other paper manufacturers over the years, mainly due to amalgamation, changing trends and technology.

It would appear that specific paper mills have concentrated mainly on the type of paper they produced best, a full history of the firm with its products and where they were produced along with their watermarks can be found in " Grace's Guide to Industrial History " and can be found on the following site their search engine will take you through the labyrinth, try not to get lost !

I suggest you first enter " Grace's guide Wiggins Teape 1934 review " on your own search engine for starters for anyone wanting to know about their papers, this site covers many other industries and is a mine of information, this is an ideal time to venture due to the confinement restrictions currently in operation.

Good hunting and stay safe ! Fred.


24/04/2020 10:15:06

On second thoughts, I can inform you about one of the articles in the philatelic curiosities section.

It relates to the use of stamps being used as currency in both the USA and Russia.

During the civil war in the USA there was a shortage of small coinage and postage stamps en-cased in mica was used to supplement the shortage.

With Russia in 1915 they issued stamps of 1913 printed on card and a reverse inscription stating that they were equal to the coinage, and again in 1917 similar stamps were issued as a substitute for copper coinage, they were not intended for postal use but some did get used for this purpose.

A nice mixture of philatelic and numismatic history !

Thread: The philatelic world of "ODDBALLS"
23/04/2020 12:45:59

Whilst studying various stamp papers under long wave ultraviolet light, I came across these particular ones concerning the 1000 L value of the castle stamps of Italy in the 1980 series. I couldn't help but notice the different coloured papers used, as in normal light they all look the same.

Not having a specialised catalogue I can only classify them at the moment as "oddballs" and have nicknamed them "Tuttii Frutti's" in accordance with the different coloured reaction that they emit.

Do you have any reference to these oddities ? If so your comments would be welcome.



21/04/2020 12:34:39

It would seem that the debacle seems to have persisted for around 3 years in the production of these papers used and was basically due to the contamination that occurred during the period 1965/8, mainly on the lower value phosphor definitives, with the odd exception of some commemoratives as can be seen under longwave ultraviolet light " The devil's in the detail ! " .

Thread: The contaminated papers of the multiple crown Wilding stamps
21/04/2020 09:50:36

CONTINUATION of contaminated papers .........


Having had little or no success with Gibbons or the RPSL I decided a different avenue of approach that would give some answers would be the production of the paper itself. I already knew that various types of paper was composed basically of wood, grasses, rags, recycled paper and also possible other additives added to create the different types of paper required used for different purposes.

Other than this, I knew very little on the subject so my first port of call was the Google website making reference to the manufacture of paper, the answer given was that it is a two-step procedure whereby fibrous raw materials is first converted into pulp and then converted into paper.

The information given was very basic and was of little help, what I needed to find out was how this specialised watermarked paper was produced, as stamps are not printed on tissue paper or cardboard !

It was Harrison and sons of High Wycombe that had printed the stamps but on further investigation I discovered that the paper used had been manufactured elsewhere ! At a paper mill called Stowford mill located in the town of Ivybridge in South Devon by a firm known as " Wiggins Teape " and that the water used during the pulp stage was drawn from the nearby river Erme.

On further exploration of the web, I came across an interesting site by the name of " Ivybridge Heritage " of which gave quite a detailed history of the paper mill in question and also a short film as to how the procedure of paper making was carried out in 1962, this individual LINK can be found on " Watch Stowford Paper Mill online - BFI Player " .

The main constituent of this paper was not recycled paper or wood but 'rags' .



Edited By Fred Sellars on 21/04/2020 09:55:19

20/04/2020 23:32:45

From what you say Paul, the magazine only had quite a short lifespan of around 4 years with a possible small circulation.

Therefore I was lucky to have come across it, I'd like to share with you and the viewers a few snippets from the magazine, but could be in breach on some regulation or other.

However, thanks for the info 👍 : Fred .

20/04/2020 09:16:12

img_20200419_213600.jpgAmongst some of my bric-a-brac of philatelic items I came across this 1949 stamp magazine by the name of " Monthly stamp digest " with a price tag of 6d .

I recall buying it at a collectors fair during the 1960s when this sort of material was more abundant, but I can't remember just how much I paid for it, possibly about 2/- at the time (10p in today's money)

Small magazines of this nature can be an invaluable source of information for today's collector relating to trends at the time, amongst it's list of contents is the 1948 Silver Wedding commonwealth omnibus issue, as at that time they would have been a 'new issue' but must have been very costly to purchase due to the amount of high face values present.

Maybe you have information as to when it last published or was amalgamated/taken over ? Who knows! In 70 years time someone will be looking at your current issue of " Stamp Magazine " giving similar comments .img_20200419_215211.jpg

Edited By Fred Sellars on 20/04/2020 09:18:10

Thread: Identifying a Stamp's Country of Issue
19/04/2020 09:42:24

Who's the jerk Alex ?

Gillian asked for help, I didn't see you step forward with any answers.

Perhaps, with YOUR attitude it's time you also left this forum likewise ..!!!

17/04/2020 22:19:48

I don't know, what you like Gillian,

The photo must have been inverted before you entered it into your album (twice !) .

As for the name of China not being on the stamp, how would you know that if you don't understand standard Chinese (Pûtōnghuà (Mandarin)) .

You've got the answer you originally asked for, be satisfied with that !

Goodnight Gillian and stay safe, regards, Fred.

17/04/2020 17:27:25

Good evening Gillian,

I couldn't help but notice that you have managed to make an update to your forum album today originally created in January 2016.

The stamp appears to be upside down in the photo and in a plastic cover.

Nevermind all is not lost !

From what I can see 👀 , the stamp in question is from the people's Republic of China and is the lower value of a set of 4 airmail stamps issued in 1957 comprising of, 16,28,35 and 52 fen.

Hoping this answers your original query posted on 22/2/20 .

Regards, Fred.

Thread: Ultra violet radiation of multiple crown Wilding definitives.
17/04/2020 11:17:56

As with most things Paul, the incentive to participate has to come from the individual, as the saying goes " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink ".

And so it is with stamp collectors !

Have a nice day,Fred.

Edited By Fred Sellars on 17/04/2020 11:19:29

17/04/2020 09:36:58

Good morning Paul,

I'm deviating somewhat from Wildings as the norm, but due to your enthusiasm on the subject, here's a tutti frutti just for you. Enjoy 😋

Hope you like it ! Fred.img_20200417_090913.jpg

Edited By Fred Sellars on 17/04/2020 09:46:36

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