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Thread: How times have changed !
04/06/2020 08:11:36

Good morning,

Join the queue Collectra, as there must be so many others like yourself that have come to a similar conclusion regarding collecting commemoratives (if you can call them that !). The definitives are almost as bad and constitute the backbone of British stamp collecting.

There is another matter that also springs to mind being the absence of an email address for which to contact either the Royal mail or the GPO, do they have a complaints department ? They seem to have many sites promoting their products and services but nothing for the latter ! Having read many annotations in the "What do they know" online regarding this issue.

Try and contact them by email over an issue and you will see what I mean, they don't want to know ! But are quite happy as long as you continue to purchase their products and services provided, irrespective of the consequences.

Have a nice day, Fred.

Thread: Ultra violet radiation of multiple crown Wilding definitives.
02/06/2020 10:02:46

Although there is a slight duplication on some of my scans between in this thread and the CREAM Vs WHITE one recently updated, I feel that this posting should join its partner to be read in conjunction on the subject of stamp papers that appears to have been neglected for so many years, thank you, Fred.

02/06/2020 08:56:45

Was it trials or tribulations one must ask with regards to the debacle that happened all those years ago, which apparently has never been disclosed by any of the authorities involved over the variations discovered ?

Continuity of quality along with reputation are of the utmost importance to any producer of goods or services provided, and maybe this is the reason as to why nothing has ever been mentioned before by any of the companies involved in the past with the production of these stamp papers over the last 60 years or so, after all, these papers were produced under supervision of the GPO !

Thread: How times have changed !
31/05/2020 11:39:35

It would appear that there is no end to the ever-increasing postal rates for letters in the UK, as on the 23rd of March it has yet again been increased substantially, the first class rate has gone from 70p to 76p (8•57%) and to a slightly lesser degree, the second class was increased from 61p to 65p (6•56%).

Have peoples wages or pensions gone up in comparison in as many months since the last increase ? I think not.

The Royal Mail's policy to issuing commemoratives does not appear to have changed either, take for instance the latest "Corrie" stamps issued on the 28th of May, again, with various unneeded/unwanted duplicated values, plus the fact that they look more like comic strips rather than postage stamps with their various captions !

This long-lasting and very successful ITV program certainly merits commemorating, but at what cost to the GB collector or dealer in order to fill the coffers of the Royal mail ?

Come on RM get your act together as with Coronation Street, or is it just to satisfy your shareholders ?

I'm sure that I am not alone with my above comments made.

Thankyou, Fred.

Thread: Identifying a Stamp's Country of Issue
31/05/2020 09:01:53

Brill Gill ! I see you have now made several modifications to your original album by removing the two inverted photo's and replacing them with the one originally intended.

Presentation is one of the most important features when displaying an item to be assessed by others, you're learning !

It means that I no longer have to stand on my head to view them 🙃

Should you need to post others in future you will know what to do, it's a learning curve.

Best wishes and have a nice day, Fred.

29/05/2020 08:39:58

It would appear that Mr Frank Leslie Walton (former president of the the Royal philatelic Society London and previous editor of The London philatelist) plus some of the expert committee of the RPSL were invited by Stanley Gibbons to re-write the introductory notes for the last issue of the the GB specialised catalogue vol 3, but unfortunately this was never accomplished, due to the fact that Stanley Gibbons were only prepared to accept discrimination between cream papers prior to the change over in 1962 and whiter papers thereafter, irrespective of any new discoveries that had been made since then including the translucent creams and contaminated ones as well as the fluorescent variety.

Therefore the veil of secrecy still persists to this day !

Edited By Fred Sellars on 29/05/2020 08:43:39

Thread: Identifying a Stamp's Country of Issue
24/05/2020 10:10:55

We all learn from our mistakes Gillian, and the outlandish remark made by Alex towards me deserves an apology, with regards to his insulting behaviour, or does he think he owns this forum and can say just whatever he likes ? Fred.

22/05/2020 17:08:01

Several theories have been made as to the 3 unlisted type of papers that was manufactured from around 1964.

Starting with the comment made by Aubrey Walker( chief chemist for the GPO ) whilst at the Dollis Hill establishment North West London in 1969 that related to the contaminating particles found in some of the paper used to print the lower value multiple crown wildings, and how it could have occurred.

Secondly, the masking technique used to disguise them that created a higher fluorescent paper, and thirdly removal of the fluorescence by oxidation, giving a cream type translucent paper similar to the ones produced prior to 1962.

All of which are quite feasible due to the fact it's all been previously kept under wraps, as back in 1968 Dr John Sugden of Woodstock fame commented during his hunt for information on various papers " as official silence is absolute " .

Need I say more ! Fred.



Edited By Fred Sellars on 22/05/2020 17:09:56

Thread: 1841 Penny Red Plate Number
22/05/2020 13:30:03

Andrew, it's the 3rd one down from your posting, you don't have to book far !

Edited By Fred Sellars on 22/05/2020 13:32:38

22/05/2020 10:37:07


Based on the cancellation used post 1844 it is not an early plate, Paul Davey 1 ( the moderator ) gave a site recommended to help would be platers in a recent posting with the heading of " is my SG8 the rare plate 107 ? " .


Many of the 1d reds do not have identifying marks on them and consequently are difficult to plate.

I suggest that you make this your first place of call, Fred.

16/05/2020 16:10:34

img_20200516_140720.jpgimg_20200516_105530.jpgAt one time, I was very interested in the early line engraved GB stamps, but now of course it's the papers used to print the lower values of the multiple crown Wildings.

I find that many collectors of the penny red don't always realise that it is almost as old as its elderly sister " the penny black " that is around 12 months it's senior, and for a period of time the black plates were used to print some of the early penny reds from plates 1b, 2, 5, 8, 9,10 and 11 originally used for the penny black, the changeover happened in 1841.

This version from the black plates may not be rated as valuable as the penny black being the first postage stamp ever to be issued, but to complete a collection of the penny black, these penny reds are a necessity.

The 2 scans above show such an example when comparing the two, the penny red being on cover with a black " Leeds " maltese cross cancellation posted on the 30th of July 1841 posted from Leeds to Edinburgh, whilst the penny black has a red maltese cross cancellation, with the last scan below showing the reverse of the cover in question.

Much study has been given to the early line engraved issues in the past and many publications made over the years. Fred.img_20200516_105933.jpg

Thread: Becoming a guest with the GBPS
11/05/2020 11:42:05

I previously forgot to mention that once you have downloaded the site, you can then save it to your home screen for future reference without having to keep entering the site address every time, as a shortcut.


Edited By Fred Sellars on 11/05/2020 12:05:42

11/05/2020 10:07:21

Did you know that you don't have to be a paid up member of the Great Britain Philatelic Society to view their forum ?

By simply inputting the following into your search engine :-

You will be admitted as a guest to a wealth of information, asked and given on all subjects relating to British philately, who knows ! There may be something of interest for you !

Have a nice day in browsing it's contents, Fred.

Thread: Is my sg8 the rare plate 107?
09/05/2020 11:53:45

Hi Daniel,

I'm not an expert in the line engraved issues, but I know of someone who is, perhaps if you contact Eric Paul Stamps with your query he may be able to give you an answer.

The ' E ' of PENNY could be the clue ! Fred.

08/05/2020 13:13:30

As an addition to my postings on this forum, you can now view my latest posting by the name of "the multiple crown Wilding stamp papers 2" as a guest of the Great Britain Philatelic Society to be found on the discussion board section, the site can be found on the following :-

Plus many other aspects to the hobby of stamp collecting. Enjoy !

Thread: Identifying a Stamp's Country of Issue
05/05/2020 12:34:17

Good afternoon Gillian,

The reason for my comments was to point out the various things that you had inadvertently done wrong and when another member interjects, who shall remain nameless and starts to call another member a jerk for helping someone else, I feel that his comments was unhelpful and unjustifiable to say the least.

I'm glad you have resolved the problem encountered in more ways than one, answering someone else's query is not always straightforward.

Have a nice day Gillian, perhaps next time you will be more aware of what to do.

Regards, Fred.

05/05/2020 10:54:02

In CONTAMINATION LAND back in 1967 the blossoms were in full bloom !img_20200404_133649.jpg

Thread: 3 papers used to print m/c Wildings
05/05/2020 09:41:06

After further study of the multiple crown Wilding stamp papers, I have now come to the conclusion that the three basic papers are now whiter, cream and fluorescent, the fibrillous ones (FIB's) was purely accidental due to the high concentration of detergents contained in some of the rag supplied, giving rise to the contamination of some of the various values found with this anomaly, the preclusion was either the removal or masking of the contaminants (fluorescent flecks/fibres) both of which appears to have been attempted.

This, in my estimation is the key piece towards the jigsaw puzzle surrounding the different variations of papers to be found, the scan below excluding the "FIB's" are the main feature of the stamps issued after 1962, whiter papers came first after this date followed by the contaminated ones beginning around late 1964, possibly due to a fresh supplier of the rags used at that time for the production of the multiple crown watermarked stamp paper, and following that was the different attempts to remedy the problem encountered.img_20200505_000721.jpg

Thread: GB stamp collection
04/05/2020 09:25:05

Good morning Kirk,

Another aspect regarding your query is that at the end of the day you will know which stamps in the collection are the " GOODIES " and which are " WALLPAPER ", but remember condition counts when doing a self-assessment valuation.

And another thing Kirk, is that it's not always what you've got, but it's the ' The thrill of the chase ' that can give the most satisfaction as with most things in life !

Thread: Meet the "FIB'S"
02/05/2020 14:53:24

It's quite possible that from 1964 a change of supplier was made that may have contributed to the original contamination in the rag supplied, as it was around that time when the fluorescent particles became more noticeable in the embodiment of some of the stamp papers produced at the mill.

One can only surmise at this stage not being privy to any records that may have been held at the time, but it would appear that the contamination progressively got worse as time went by.

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