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SG819, 5d Stamp error

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Steve Fell 108/01/2017 20:51:35
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I have recently been going through my modest collection, many previously bought at a local auction. I have already identified a number of low cost minor listed errors, an area which I have become a little fascinated by. The recent one includes the pre-decimal, SG819, 5d stamp from the set of "Anniversaries" (3rd series). According to SG's QEII Specialised catalogue, SG819e shows a white spot on the LHS ladies hem. It is similar to the one below but larger. It does go on to say that the size of the spot can vary with the registration of colours. Question, is my example shown below the listed error? In normal stamps the white does not bleed into the red border, but stops short at the line of the black.


Julian11/01/2017 20:25:19
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Hi Steve,

Best thing to do here I would think is compare it to another of the sane design?

I think I see what your referring to but without seeing a normal one its very hard to judge.

I do have to say I like these stamps with discrepancies or errors, just adds that little bit more to it. As for value it will always be what the buyers is prepared to pay for it rather than Cat value.


Steve Fell 111/01/2017 22:13:31
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Thanks, yes I should have shown a comparison. Here is a photo which is "normal" Notice how the white line is straight and extends to the red border and stops. In the error stamp the white "bleeds" into the red area and appears almost as a "hammer head". This is how it is shown in the catalogue. I should also point out that the spot is visible to the naked eye and is not so minor as to require a high powered magnifying glass! Many listed errors I have seen do need magnification.

As to value, that is not so important to me. So many of these minor errors only realise about £20 at best. It's usually missing colours that command high prices. I would like confirmation of my assessment from experts so I can include the stamp in my collection as a genuine variation/error rather than just wishful thinking on my part

Hope anyone can help


Steve Fell 111/01/2017 22:47:04
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As and addition to this post, for anyone interested in GB error stamps, I am showing here a number of pre-decimal errors that I have found in a collection, that are the sort of thing to look out for.

SG646a is the 3d stamp from 1964 Shakespeare Festival, the lower stamp showing a line of black dots across Pucks head.

SG647b is the 6d from the same set with missing floorboards just above the "L"

SG651a the 21/2d stamp from Geographical Congress, with a shorter blue line under the value

SG667c is a scratch on the plate producing a line from the handle to the top left hand corner of the stamp on the 1965 Joseph Lister issue

SG716j from the 1/6d EFTA stamp shows a break in the top RH corner of the frame of the Portuguese flag

Most of these errors do require a magnifying glass to see them clearly. All are listed errors from the

SG's Specialized Catalogue of QEII Pre-Decimal Stamps

Very well worth checking you collections for some of these interesting minor errors

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Paul Doyle15/01/2017 14:55:56
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Some nice finds there!

I would agree that your SG819e is the listed error.

Out of interest, how many stamps have you gone through in order to find these?

Steve Fell 115/01/2017 16:21:16
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. I have to say that looking at some "error" stamps listed on eBay so many are a bit dodgy. It seems that even the smallest frame/perforation shift constitutes an error these days.

I must have scanned many hundreds of stamps over a period of time to find these few. Even though they do not command high prices, they are still fairly tricky to find. Of course having the specialised stamp catalogue helps. I have only been checking these thoroughly more recently, I hate to think how many I have sold on without knowing.

SG doesn't seem to produce a specialised catalogue for decimal QEII commemoratives, but I have found website called Pierron's Modern GB Errors & Varieties, which covers most of these in a pdf format

Julian22/01/2017 12:05:45
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Hi Again Steve,

This is a hard one but its a subject I am not open with. Your error stamp is vastly different with the grey down the side as well but I am really not aware with the subject unless its a definite error. So this "bleeding of colour" I am not sure about at all, I would definitely say yours is the error not only with the white but the grey up the dress but if this is "Bleeding" is it an error??? For some reason this does not grab me as an error, don't ask me why I feel this way because its probably down to my lack of knowledge as to how stamps are printed.

And I agree with your "Ebay dubious errors" statement as well.

For me the error has to be definite, like a missing number, text, on some Diana wedding stamps there are prints of buildings and flag poles missing, when you consider how tiny and thin these are, is it really an error. I feel the finer the missing part the less it is an error but I have no understanding of printing?

The other thing I have become aware of is inverted errors and there is a vast suggestion that these are done on purpose to make a collecting issue??

Without doubt your is vastly different to the original so I think with my limited knowledge I would vote YES.


Steve Fell 115/02/2017 22:37:27
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Ongoing to my interest with error and variation stamps here are 2 stamps, SG757 & SG757e. The 4d Christmas stamp from 1967 normally shows 2 phosphor bands on either side. In SG Specialized Catalogue SG757e is a known variation. It is listed as "one broad band". It does not say which side the band can be seen, although most I have seen show the band on the left.

As can be seen in the photo, taken at an angle, the variation does show one broad band to the right! Also under UV light a very thin band can be seen along the extreme LHS white margin. Does anyone have any experience with phosphor shifts?

I would appreciate any comments please




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Julian18/02/2017 11:58:48
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Oh I just love this, errors in phosphor banding as well, incredible!! I looked at your album Steve what is the 17.5p stamp doing there, is it also an error because I think I have a load of these somewhere?

Keep up the posting of your errors, I personally find them a great subject choice of collecting stamps. I am not sure this grabs me as much but I suppose its the same as a shift in print so why not. Not only that, it gives an indication as what to look out for, on other stamps, as I personally do not have the luxury of SG special cats.

Julian18/02/2017 12:22:25
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So sorry Steve I neglected to see the web link on previous post!!!! Now you got me looking I have stacks of these old decimals and will be chuffed to find any errors through my collection of which I use as postage as well. So now I shall be checking them before I use or sell them.............................

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